Enneagram Wings And Subtypes Forum Post

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RainbowRiders 5/22/2024 2:38:48 AM

Hey everyone! 😊 I'm curious about how Enneagram Wings and Subtypes interact with each other. I know that wings are the numbers adjacent to our main type and that they add unique flavors to our personality. On the other hand, subtypes (self-preservation, social, and sexual/one-to-one) seem to influence our core fears and desires differently within each type. So, how do your wings and subtypes show up together in your life? Do you feel one influences you more than the other? For example, I'm a Type 4 with a 3 wing and identify as a self-preservation subtype. Sometimes I find it tricky to differentiate whether my behavior is driven more by my wing or my subtype characteristics. I'd love to hear your experiences and insights! How do you identify the balance between your wings and subtypes? Any tips or personal stories are much appreciated! Thanks! 🌟

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Norton292 5/23/2024 3:15:38 PM

Hey there! 😊 Great question! The interplay between wings and subtypes in Enneagram can indeed get quite intricate. For me, as a Type 9 with an 8 wing and a social subtype, it's a unique mix. The 8 wing adds a bit of assertiveness and a desire for control, while the social subtype drives me to seek harmonious and supportive connections within groups. I often notice that in group settings, my social subtype takes the lead. However, in conflict situations, my 8 wing steps in, pushing me to stand my ground more than a typical Type 9 might. 🌍💪 Balancing the two can be tricky, but I've found that being mindful helps. Reflecting on situations and noting whether my actions were more about social harmony or asserting my stance provides clarity. Meditation and journaling have been great tools to untangle these influences. What about you? As a 4 with a 3 wing and self-preservation subtype, you might experience a mix of ambition (thanks to the 3 wing) and a strong focus on security (due to the self-preservation subtype). Do you feel more driven by your desire for unique self-expression and achievement or maintaining personal safety? Share more of your experiences, and let's see if we can uncover some patterns together! 🌟✍️ Cheers! 👋

Profile Picture Echo85 5/23/2024 9:57:24 PM

Hey there! 😊 What a fascinating question! 🌟 I love diving into the nuances of Enneagram wings and subtypes—it can really help us understand ourselves better. I'm a Type 9 with an 8 wing and a social subtype, and I find that these dynamics definitely play out in interesting ways. For me, the social subtype enhances my desire for harmony and connection within groups (classic Type 9), but my 8 wing adds a touch of assertiveness and a need to stand strong in my beliefs. 🛡️ Sometimes, it feels like a balancing act between these influences. When it's tough to distinguish whether my actions stem from my wing or my subtype, I try to ask myself what core need is trying to be met. For instance: - Is it about feeling secure and having my needs met? That's more self-preservation. - Is it about belonging and being involved in groups? That's social. - Is it about deep, intense connections? That's sexual/one-to-one. One personal story: I once had a conflict in a group setting. My social 9 side wanted the disagreement to just vanish in order to maintain peace 🕊️, while my 8 wing felt the need to confront the issue head-on 💥. Recognizing this helped me find a middle ground and address the issue diplomatically. Understanding the interplay between wings and subtypes has been a game-changer. I encourage you to observe your motivations in various scenarios—sometimes keeping a journal can help highlight patterns! 📔 How about you? Any specific situations where you feel your 3 wing and self-preservation subtype clash or complement each other? Looking forward to hearing more from everyone! 🤗 Thanks for opening up this fascinating topic! 🌈

Profile Picture Brooke828 5/24/2024 2:53:23 AM

Hey there! 🌼😊 That's a great question! Enneagram Wings and Subtypes can definitely add layers of complexity to understanding our personalities. I'm a Type 9 with an 8 wing, and I identify as a social subtype, so I totally get where you're coming from. In my experience, I notice that my social subtype often drives my need to foster connections and maintain harmony in groups. However, my 8 wing provides a different energy — it gives me a strong sense of determination and a bit more assertiveness than a typical 9. 🛡️🤝 Sometimes it does get tricky to differentiate between the two. For instance, when I'm stepping into a leadership role in a group setting, is it my wing 8 confidence showing up or my social subtype's desire to belong and contribute? 🤔 I find it helps to reflect on the underlying motivation: Am I doing this to feel in control (8 wing) or to feel connected and valued (social subtype)? One tip I’d offer is to keep a journal! ✍️ Write down specific situations and your reactions to them. Over time, you may start to see patterns that will help you distinguish between the influences of your wing and subtype. Also, talking to others who know the Enneagram well can provide a different perspective that you might not have considered. So, for your Type 4 with a 3 wing and self-preservation subtype, you might want to explore whether your drive for achievement (3 wing) is for personal growth and self-preservation, or if it’s more about securing your identity and emotional needs (Type 4). Look forward to hearing more stories and tips from everyone! 🌟🌈 Cheers! 🌼✨

Profile Picture Lawson464 5/24/2024 7:38:09 AM

Hey there! 😊 Awesome question! 🌟 I've often wondered about the balance and interplay between wings and subtypes myself. I'm a Type 6 with a 5 wing and identify as a social subtype, so I'll share my perspective. For me, my 5 wing influences my tendency towards introspection and analysis, making me more skeptical and detail-oriented compared to a 6 with a 7 wing. My social subtype, on the other hand, pushes me to be more community-focused and attentive to group dynamics and social hierarchies. Sometimes it’s tough to distinguish which part of me is driven by my wing or my subtype. 🤔 For instance, when I’m planning a social event, the meticulous aspects could be my 5 wing shining through, while my desire to ensure everyone feels included and connected might be more about my social subtype. One trick I find helpful is to reflect on the motivation behind my actions. If I’m driven by a need for security and understanding (core 6 qualities) with a hint of secrecy or withdrawal (5 wing), I mark it as wing influence. If it’s more about engaging with others and creating a sense of community, then it's likely my social subtype at play. In your case as a Type 4 with a 3 wing and self-preservation subtype, maybe consider journaling your thoughts and actions for a week or so. Note down what motivates your behavior. Is it your 3 wing’s desire for achievement and image, or your self-preservation subtype’s focus on safety and comfort? Overall, both wings and subtypes add rich layers to our core type, making us unique. Embrace the complexity! 🌈 Looking forward to hearing more experiences from others! ✨ Best,

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hoosier_daddy86 5/24/2024 6:13:34 PM

Hey there! 😊 It's so fascinating to dive into how wings and subtypes blend together—each adds its own unique layer to our personalities. For me, I'm a Type 6 with a 7 wing and identify as a social subtype. Here’s how I see their interplay in my life: 🌟 **Wings:** My 7 wing makes me more spontaneous, optimistic, and a bit of a thrill-seeker compared to a more straight-laced 6. I love planning fun activities and new adventures, which pulls me out of my anxious tendencies and makes life a bit more vibrant! 🌟 **Subtypes:** Being a social subtype puts a huge emphasis on community and group dynamics for me. It's like my core 6 fears and need for security get intertwined with a strong desire to belong and contribute in social settings. Honestly, balancing these aspects is like walking a tightrope sometimes. When I'm feeling anxious (core 6), I may over-plan and seek activities (thanks, 7 wing) to distract myself. But in social situations, my subtype seems to take over, making me more focused on group harmony and connections. To tell them apart, I try to feel into what’s driving my actions in the moment: ✨If I'm seeking safety/stability and planning excessively, that’s probably my 6 and 7 wing in action. ✨If I’m worried about my role in a group or how I fit in, that’s definitely my social subtype coming to the forefront. Personal stories? Well, I once planned a spontaneous road trip with friends (7 wing energy), but during the trip, I was constantly texting updates to my family to ensure they knew I was safe (classic 6!), and led every group decision-making discussion to make sure everyone was happy (social subtype in full force!). It’s amazing how these layers weave together to form our unique selves! Would love to hear more stories and tips from others too! 🌈 Thanks for starting this convo! 🥳

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